Count me in =)

uwaa!! this would be a really helpful thread tenjou-sensei!!
imma ask when i encounter something xD

おもしろいじゃないか。やってみたい！

This will help me loads :D

Kaze-sensei! Thanks!

I suggest that aside from this thread, we schedule real time class.. you know, live chat? or something. like IRC?


Anyway, thanks! Good luck to all of us!

count me in ^ ^

Thanks for the thread...

.hail.

tenjounokaze wrote:
4. If interest demands it, I will gladly post weekly, or even daily Japanese tips/mini-lessons. If you have a suggestion or topic you would like explained or featured, please feel free to suggest it in this thread.

Ok, I really got confused in what topic to post it, but here goes....

If our ScandalFM or CAN-TA FM will start working,
I would really like to have that short lessons broadcasted live
or live conversation like in public radiostation.

Here is the thread about radio station
https://www.scandal-heaven.com/t2558-dj

What do You think about it?
Charles

yagiza wrote:

wormwood wrote:Count me in!
but I don't know anything about japanese language. So, can we start form scratch? .shy.

If you are starting from scratch like me, I suggest you could learn reading and writing hiragana and katakana first somewhere. There's a lot of lessons on it online. That's what my first lesson is about anw.

I'm really not good learnig online but I'll try. Wish me luck! .please.

ban wrote:Kaze-sensei! Thanks!

I suggest that aside from this thread, we schedule real time class.. you know, live chat? or something. like IRC?


Anyway, thanks! Good luck to all of us!

Speaking of irc.. I'm always on at #scandal-heaven @ rizon.

Not sure if there are any people who know about that place now that the button has been removed!

@wormwood: Let's give each other our moral support on this one, it's gonna be hard but with everyone at SH, all of us can do it!! .rage.

I'm in for thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis~! .hora.

To all who responded: Thanks for all your replies and especially thanks to those who provided some input toward the lessons and ideas on how to expand this thread.

Now that I have an idea of how many people will be participating, I know that I have some work to do. I will be modifying the initial message/thread heading to reflect this, so please take a look when it's complete. >-

@thoseguiltyeyes and @LieAnn, Great idea for verb conjugation - since this is a SCANDAL form, I will try and find as many examples of different conjugated verbs from SCANDAL lyrics as I can! Hopefully everyone will enjoy this.

ban wrote:I suggest that aside from this thread, we schedule real time class.. you know, live chat? or something. like IRC?

Ban, I think the real-time class is a great idea, but because of all the different time zones that people in this forum occupy, I think it is almost impossible to accommodate everyone. However, I had the idea (thanks to Snypershot) to make small podcast segments that we are looking to add into the SH Podcast, as well as perhaps make on my own and upload to the same site Snype and Saku use. So stay tuned for more on that.

I Hope that The lessons will be posted here in this thread as well because I can't always download the podcasts! waiting for the lessons to start!! .hardwork.

I'm in!

great idea tenjou! esp the part with lessons relating to SCANDAL songs, im sure thatll make learning much easier for everyone and fun to learn

as for me i only have experience playing "My Word Coach: Japanese" on Nintendo DS hahah so i'm ready to take it up a notch

Just thought I would let everyone know Tenjounokaze is currently in Japan for most of February, but he'll be back around the end of the month.

count me in sensei!

.wow. .wow.

Hi, I have a question on Japanese and I thought I could ask it here. Sorry that I 'interrupted' the lesson before it actually starts. But hey, we can self-study before semester starts right? LOL

Anyway, my question is on the particle に.

Say, my target is 家 (home) and I am going back to 家. So it goes

家に帰る。

I know my target is home, so I am going back to home.
But does this expression imply I reach home? Or it does not have to imply I have reached?
If I never reach my home even though I am going there as my intended destination, can I still use the above sentence? Or does it have to become the negative form:

家に帰らない。

because I use に that which implies reaching the target while I did not.

I hope my question is clear enough, if not pls do let me know and I will clarify it.

Thank you for everyone's help~~!!

.hail.

chiy102 wrote:Hi, I have a question on Japanese and I thought I could ask it here. Sorry that I 'interrupted' the lesson before it actually starts. But hey, we can self-study before semester starts right? LOL

Anyway, my question is on the particle に.

Say, my target is 家 (home) and I am going back to 家. So it goes

家に帰る。

I know my target is home, so I am going back to home.
But does this expression imply I reach home? Or it does not have to imply I have reached?
If I never reach my home even though I am going there as my intended destination, can I still use the above sentence? Or does it have to become the negative form:

家に帰らない。

because I use に that which implies reaching the target while I did not.

I hope my question is clear enough, if not pls do let me know and I will clarify it.

Thank you for everyone's help~~!!

.hail.

It doesn't matter if you've reached home or not; if you use the verb "帰る," then you need use the に particle, or you could also use the へ (e) particle (in this case, they're the same thing). A verb that indicates an action to go somewhere (帰る, 行く) needs the に or へ particle accompanying it.

"家に帰る。" = "I'm going home." Since the verb is in its dictionary form, it's in the present/future tense and more or less implies that you are planning on going home.

"家に帰らない。" = "I'm not going home." This in the plain negative form, so you should use it when you're speaking in the present and want to say something like you're not planning to go home.

If you're speaking in the present and want to talk about a past action, like you did not go home/did not reach home, then you should use the negative past tense of "帰る." The sentence would then be, "家に帰らなかった。" (informal negative past tense), or "家に帰りませんでした。" (polite negative past tense) = "I did not go home."

Hope that was clear enough! Let me know if it wasn't.

I see. Really thank you for the explanation~~! Yup, think it is clear enough for me.

So basically this present/future tense form does not 'care' about the result/outcome of my action to do something. Also, I should not associate the particle to the result/outcome, it is simply a accompanying particle whenever a verb to indicate going somewhere is used.

chiy102 wrote:I see. Really thank you for the explanation~~! Yup, think it is clear enough for me.

So basically this present/future tense form does not 'care' about the result/outcome of my action to do something. Also, I should not associate the particle to the result/outcome, it is simply a accompanying particle whenever a verb to indicate going somewhere is used.

No problem! And yep, that's exactly right on both parts.

Damn, nice work Guiltyeyes!

You pretty much said what I would have

chiy102 wrote:Hi, I have a question on Japanese and I thought I could ask it here. Sorry that I 'interrupted' the lesson before it actually starts. But hey, we can self-study before semester starts right? LOL

Chiy, thanks for your question, as this is exactly one of the reasons why I created this thread. I hope more people ask questions, which will keep this thread afloat while I'm occupied with my travels. :D<:

And thanks to Jade/GuiltyEyes for providing a great and comprehensive answer!

Update on the Verb lesson - should be done around this time next week, so please look forward to that!

Thank you for the encouragement, tenjou. (^w^)

Will be looking forward to the lesson on verbs .clap.

count me in~
i wanna learn too

I have a small question I'm trying to write "I learned a little Japanese." but I'm not sure if I should use が or not...

少し日本語学びました.
or
少し日本語が学びました.

Google translate has a more natural time translating it back to English if I don't use が, but I'm not confident that's the best way to tell which way is right.